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Lowdown3
12-12-2014, 03:02 PM
So these darn side by sides are pretty darn expensive. A hair under $10K for a new one without 4wd.

Looking at possibly instead a 90'ish Jeep Wrangler 4x4 for a little less than half that.

Owned a inline 6 Cherokee for years and got 292K out of that one.

This Jeep has the little 4 cyclinder.

Pros/cons? Anyone own one of these now or in the past? Problems?

Thanks

protus
12-12-2014, 11:43 PM
I owned a 95 wrangler ...suspension could be better (more flex for off road) ..I ragged mine. I'm talking water to the seats ragging for three years or more before the slave cylinder in the transmission gave up.
Wish I had o.e now.

What's caught my eye is the mini trucks that Mitsubishi etc make. Most are 3-15 k..4*4... and look like lil unimogs LOL

Tackleberry
12-14-2014, 01:43 PM
My vote is for the Jeep although I would recommend finding one with the inline 6. The inline 6 is a workhorse of a motor. If you don't already have a Jeep you can pick up a used late model (80s-90s) for $1500-5000.

I bought my '92 Cherokee new after graduating from college. Two years ago I had the engine rebuilt, a remanufactured transmission, and new tires (275/75R15 ATs) on it. All for less than $6000. This is my combination "drive-everyday-to-work-GHV-BOV-carry-dirty-dogs-&-dead-critters" vehicle.

I just got back from elk hunting (didn't get one) at the base of the Mogollon Rim (North of Payson) and I drove over the same terrain as the side by sides with no problems. The bonus is I have a vehicle with AC, heat, and protection from wind and rain that can carry an elk (did I mention I did not get one).

The after market options for Jeeps are insane now. There are so many quality products out there you can customize your Jeep the way you want without breaking the bank. My upcoming projects are: a 2-3" lift kit, 31x10.5 tires & rims, a rear bumper w/ tire rack, a front bumper w/ winch, and a roof rack. I estimate I can get this done for around $5000.

My point being is that for investing $11000 into the Cherokee I get a vehicle I can use every day and it can go pretty much any where the side by side ATVs can go.

Lowdown3
12-14-2014, 08:30 PM
We drove this one and when I attempted to shift the 4WD, it was like the linkage broke or something- the stick went loose and even FELL downwards. Then right after I couldn't put the car in ANY normal gear.

Serious problem or easy fix?

Tackleberry
12-14-2014, 10:10 PM
We drove this one and when I attempted to shift the 4WD, it was like the linkage broke or something- the stick went loose and even FELL downwards. Then right after I couldn't put the car in ANY normal gear.

Serious problem or easy fix?

Depends.... were you in 4WD High or 4WD Low? You can shift in an out of 4WD High while rolling as long as you're under 45 MPH but 4WD Low you have to be stopped and in neutral.

If it is just the linkage then it is an easy fix, otherwise, you'll most likely have to spend money to fix the problem. Have a trusted mechanic take a look at the linkage and the transfer case. He should be able to determine the fix pretty quickly.

Lowdown3
07-10-2015, 08:50 AM
So on the nineties Jeep Wranglers, 4wd 4 CYL. what common problems have people seen?

What to look for when checking out something like that.

Rmplstlskn
07-10-2015, 10:46 AM
JEEP = Just Empty Every Pocket

Why not an older Toyota Hi-Lux or Nissan 4x4?

A Toyota with 22R 4-banger and manual tranny are unstoppable and run forever it seems... Just body rust issues mainly.

An old pickup 4x4 seems more useful than a Jeep (truck bed), unless you want something to go topless in... LOL!

Rmpl

protus
07-10-2015, 08:04 PM
So on the nineties Jeep Wranglers, 4wd 4 CYL. what common problems have people seen?

What to look for when checking out something like that.

Well if you run it like I did...slave cylinder will go. But I don't see you driving in waist deep water ...

Sides that issue I had none.

Lowdown3
07-11-2015, 08:51 AM
Well if you run it like I did...slave cylinder will go. But I don't see you driving in waist deep water ...

Sides that issue I had none.

Not unless their is a flood no LOL.

Got a couple of pickups including one similar to what Rmpl mentioned. Still having good luck with that one, unfortunately it isn't a 4X

justanothergunnut
07-12-2015, 08:08 PM
I miss my yota... I loved that truck. samll, great gas mileage and dang did she 4 wheel....

RobertJ
07-12-2015, 09:32 PM
We drove this one and when I attempted to shift the 4WD, it was like the linkage broke or something- the stick went loose and even FELL downwards. Then right after I couldn't put the car in ANY normal gear.

Serious problem or easy fix?

LD3,
Depending on year... The wranglers have a plastic bushing that fails with heat/age/abuse/etc. The part is designed to fail before breaking something else in the linkage/tranny/trans case. This bushing is on both ends of the linkage. One at shifter (trans or transfer case) end. One at tranny/transfer case itself. Its a 3.00 part that scares the crap out of people when they fail. I keep several extras in my jeep JIC. The failure happens just as you describe it. Its happened on my JK already. My buddys TJ has gone a few times, but he abuses it. I believe that was what you encountered. Several homebrew (trailside) fixes for this up to and including zip ties...LOL

RobertJ
07-12-2015, 09:41 PM
Had an 87' SR5 I bought new (my first ever new vehicle) That thing was the best 4x4 I ever owned, and this from a jeep guy.

tarheelsman71
07-13-2015, 04:48 PM
Will trade you my 97 Jeep Wrangler for some store credit? 130,000 miles 6 cyl. 12k winch. Hardtop and bikini top. Bonus points for Grenade Stick Shift?

Benn Gleck
07-14-2015, 08:56 PM
I'm not makin fun of ya Tarheelsman, but you're a little fella ain't Ya? :p

tarheelsman71
07-15-2015, 07:35 AM
LOL. That is me version 3.0! (My third kid). He is a mini me. Loves to shoot, workout, hike, canoe, etc. We were at 10 yards shooting ruger 22/45's and I was looking at the target stapled to the plywood and I knew he was shooting but I couldnt see the impacts on the targets. I stopped him and asked him what he was shooting at, and he had put 9mm brass on the top of the plywood and that is what he was shooting. My old eyes couldnt see the 9mm brass. 8 years old and 80 SOLID lbs. When we do a little rolling for fun, he gives my 12 year old all he wants.

Lowdown3
07-18-2015, 11:55 AM
Will trade you my 97 Jeep Wrangler for some store credit? 130,000 miles 6 cyl. 12k winch. Hardtop and bikini top. Bonus points for Grenade Stick Shift?

Grenade Stick shift !?! SOLD!!! :)

Shoot me an email, we'll talk.

cpt_sfc
01-17-2016, 05:40 PM
I think one of several older 4wd found in the dry west , no rust etc Have rebuilt. any older mitsu/jeep/toy/ trooper/ or get a home made dune buggy with low tech gear on it they still make all the old stuff but no one wants to make a 60 HP dune bug with a carb dis cap etc . everyone want elec hi tech hi HP hi breakdown loud junk on it. The only thing I would add to it would be a set of mat tracks and skis for the front. O also if you can find one a UNIMOG>

eeyore
01-18-2016, 01:59 PM
I presently have a 94 Jeep 4.0. It has about 275, bought it with a little over 160,ooo on it. Bought it for a 1000 and put 500 in it to pass inspection. The main problem was I had to replace the as tank.

It is rough riding but has been dependable for me.

Lowdown3
01-20-2016, 09:03 PM
What's up Eeyore? Good to see you brother!

eeyore
02-02-2016, 02:40 PM
Just life getting in the way, I hope all is well with you and yours. So what did you decide on?

Lowdown3
02-06-2016, 10:23 AM
Got an older Jeep last year that was an anniversary present for my wife. It's been great so far, no problems whatsoever. Little four banger but it's 4wd. Been meaning to get some various accessories going on there- brush guard and winch, etc. but just haven't had the time.

cpt_sfc
02-26-2016, 09:20 AM
A friend of mine that just retired from the mil. in Canada and works for gen dynamics spoke with me about the brits sending a bunch of land rovers to Canada to sell off for surplus. All older ones mil spec. He is going to get the info for me . if it pans out to be true I will post info.

cpt_sfc
04-09-2016, 08:48 PM
I just rode in a mini trk from japan. It is quite the beast. 4wd, diesel , heat, radio, 58inchs wide, had bigger tires set out on rims so wider. This lady paid 3 grand. Claims it will do 70 mph if throttle control is taken off. Only does 35 now . WT. aprox1600 lbs. Built like a tank.

Lowdown3
12-26-2017, 09:13 AM
Found a decent deal on a 2014 Polaris Ranger Crew cab at an auction a while back.

Everyone told me "you need one of these" "I use mine every day" and I kept putting it off going "yeah yeah I hear ya..."

Damn if I have used this thing every day since I got it.....

Christmas Eve my son and I were cutting up some big pines and a big oak that fell recently. Pulled the Ranger right down to it with the little trailer on it and was able to put the cut rounds right in there. Cutting down on how far we usually carry the cut firewood. Have used it for fencing projects way back in the woods, etc.

It's a nice way to quickly check long fence lines back in the woods also. Haven't been dogging it out, but it will go through some low water and muddy spots pretty well. On the road it gets up to 50mph really quickly.