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    Quote Originally Posted by protus View Post
    Ok. Well whats your load for the above scenerio.

    Mine varies as whats listed to me is running a tad lean.
    Heck..for one scenario of patrol i have a spotting scope.....and different comms...



    I do pack a sea to summit spork so im ready for anything ;p

    Seriously?? sea to summit spork? Is this really a serious question from you?




    Snow Peak Titanium spork dude. Seriously. I gave you more credit than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Seriously?? sea to summit spork? Is this really a serious question from you?




    Snow Peak Titanium spork dude. Seriously. I gave you more credit than this.
    Snow peaks are for hippies....
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    Quote Originally Posted by protus View Post
    Snow peaks are for hippies....
    Utterly deceptive twaddle-speak says I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Utterly deceptive twaddle-speak says I.
    Wieght savings vs the sae to summit are not even noticable. Price wise its what 3-8$. Of course they both make longer ones (good for mre/mnt house bags).
    In the pots/kettles (same with msr/gsi )is where TI saves. Of course now price becomes an issue.

    To me weight vs bulk.
    Usgi poncho is irrc around 1.3+lbs in a 5+7 configuration. A sil tarp of the same is around 4oz...a 1.3-1.5oz tarp (similar to yours )weighs around 7-9oz for a larger tarp. Both near 80% smaller than the issue poncho.

    Thats just one example. But thats why a ton of gear makers have went to 500d vs 1000d and now to skeltonized rigs. To save even more weight.
    Of course just like good backpacking gear the lighter the more cash you drop.

    On top of that as you know...we aint 18..and with exsiting injuries lugging 900lbs aint happening for long periods while still maintaining some sort of effectivness.hence why i scaled down my rigs and kit. Iirc my whole chest rig is sub 12lbs.
    Me ill go light...move easier..and not be fatigued. Younger types should take note.
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    Ok. What about plates on patrol?
    Pros /cons.
    Me im sitting the fence. Mostly because of $ but also the abilty to be effective over x hours in x weather with x issues(injury etc ).
    I see them more of a pro for say qrf..inside wire movement. Static or defensive actions.
    Im also a realist. Part of me says they are viable .another parts says "even a bowel..extreme wound to the limbs) puts you in the gonna die catagory."



    What about shelter systems on patrol...it wont always be 65 and sunny.
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    Always have shelter. Always.

    As for armor, on foot and no vehicles? Nope. Static security/defense? Yup.

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    Agree...static for BA, however if known mission was to go disrupt the biker gang that is killing, raping (think Patriots by Rawles) then BA may be useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriotic Sheepdog View Post
    Agree...static for BA, however if known mission was to go disrupt the biker gang that is killing, raping (think Patriots by Rawles) then BA may be useful.

    true.
    area denial patrol or recon not so much. static or "raid" i agree with you.

    now. what about "soft" armor.
    by that im talking elbow/knee pads..bump helmet....
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    example of my current "short range" set up. this is the 2-3 mile circle area patrol get up.

    the bullets part-

    support-


    top is the UW gear rig with 2 m4 pouches(old issue stuff). inside those is and CAT and izzy dressing. one holds a set of emt shears.
    total mags-4
    belt holds-left/right
    2xpistol
    1(or 2) rifle mags(or radio). on that pouch is also a pouch for a flash light.
    EE kit/misc bag- holds everything from gloves to throw line.
    tear out IFAK
    trusty 1995 vintage g81 knife- i debated going smaller(kbar tdi ) or dedicated fighter (cold steel peacemaker) but figured a good do all would be better.
    nade pouch- holds another izzy. ill prolly replace this with a smaller pouch to streamline and hold a 4th CAT instead.
    eagle drop leg(g17) and multitool- not the best but its what i got for now.

    support is a cbak mule with 3 liter bladder.
    it contains basic stuff. water filter,food, tarp,gloves,550..reloads..batteries ,comms and ectra nav gear. the outter pouches are issue med pouches one holds the filter the other more medical( ouchy boo boo stuff and the 4th CAT and izzy).
    wind/rain jacket bungeed to the outside.
    lots of other small items in there to list.
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    Whats everyones thought on team comms. Basic 2m...grms/frs..murs...vhf...
    Im oj 2m..but have frs/grms if need be. Vhf/marine radios i think are over looked (most hunt clubs here run vhf or ssb cb set ups )..
    Use these for person to person..only to base camp for intel...with a small team is it even needed (2-4 guys )for each person....
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