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    Psychology and the post SHTF life

    As far as the psychology of this sort of thing here are some things to consider-

    *Immediate gratification will be for the most part GONE. Those spoiled children (young and old) among us who forever "want it now!" are going to fall apart, maybe get shot in the face by someone who they are trying to "trade" with that isn't interested in dealing with a child's temper tantrum. (Understand I mean ADULTS that never grew up)

    *We will be solely responsible for everything we have and do
    . This is where the "I can't be bothered to try to figure that out" crowd is going to be effed big time. Going to the internet to watch a youtube video on installing something, on fixing something, etc. will be gone. Best will be finding someone who you can help you and you RECIPROCATE with. Second best will be trial and error via trying to take care of it yourself hopefully with a reference book to guide you. Screaming at someone on the phone because you can't be bothered to read directions or try to figure it out on your own will be gone.

    If your well fails, it will be up to you to fix it. Or no water.
    If your gun breaks, it will be up to you to replace the part. Or no gun.
    If your roof gets torn up in a storm, it will be up to you to fix it. Or no dry house.
    If your energy system isn't performing, it will be up to you to fix it. Or no power.
    If you want to EAT, it will be up to you to PLAN far enough ahead of time, put in the WORK necessary, etc. Or you won't eat.

    That level of responsibility is great to TALK ABOUT, but few ever experience it. Yes of course I'm not saying that WHILE THINGS ARE NORMAL you shouldn't seek help, you should. But YOU have to own the problem and even if you have to bring in an "expert" to: fix the well, rebuild the energy system, help with the garden, etc. You better damn well be paying attention and LEARNING FROM IT. When we first moved to our retreat, I was not at all familiar with wells. When we had well issues I had to call the well guy. But I brought him a Coke, talked with him, asked him politely what broke, how does this work? etc. I learned what things did, what happened and what to check when they didn't do what they were supposed to, etc. A lot of specialists like this like to talk about what they are doing, etc. Just don't be annoying or the guy that QUESTIONS everything they are doing. Be friendly, offer them coffee, cold drink, etc. Standing there watching over them like you think they are going to steal your silverware is not what I'm talking about, LOL. Take the "can I help you with any of this?" approach and MEAN IT. Not only do you learn these things, often times they will cut a few bucks off the bill if you are actually working- just don't ASK for that.


    Our society has been taught not to take RESPONSIBILITY for it's actions. "It ain't my fault!" is the swan song of Amerika these days. Yet when the SAFETY NET of society is gone, their will be NO ONE TO BLAME if you cannot take care of yourself. Oh yes, this goes a lot further than simply ******ing about "welfare rats and FSA types."

    A good rule of thumb is to assume that you might not understand things correctly, or you missed something first, BEFORE assuming it's the other guy's fault. This tactic is a great way to build bridges versus cause conflicts. "Hey what am I doing wrong here? I've got to be doing something wrong here cause I can't get this to work right." Versus "this doesn't work, your a crook!" which in the PAW could easily get you shot in the face. And guess what, 99% of the time it IS things we have assumed incorrectly, or are doing incorrectly and NOT the other person's problem. Try to move slow on accusations, their will be no rule of law. Jumping right at the jugular for a minor thing perhaps you don't understand will NOT be the way to go about things.

    Finally- WORK.

    Yesterday we didn't have any work planned around the homestead. My son had some work with his business and left to do that. I did some business in the morning and my wife worked out. While we had no major work planned, we spent from about 11 to 6pm cutting down 4 trees that were dying or dead, cutting them to length, cleaning up debris, cleaning up a garden area that is out of rotation right now, etc. It said it was 113 degrees for here online. It sucked outside. We ended the day about 8pm as we started the day in the morning, checking on and taking care of cows, rabbits, dogs. It was a "light" day for us. We ALL worked. My son was raised to help out from the time he could walk. No Xbox, no whining teenage BS, just be a part of the family and help out.

    Living this way is WORK and we have more than a few conveniences now. If you took out having an alternate energy system that would mean washing clothes by hand, carrying water from a ground water source or from the hand pumped well in buckets, not having light to work into the night, power tools, etc. I will do whatever it takes to keep my energy system going as long as I can including EMP backups, because I realize how much more life would suck without some amount of power.

    Without these TIME AND LABOR SAVERS, one person would have spent a good portion of the day doing wash by hand, another person or three, would have been tasked with hauling water, filtering it and of course WAITING for it to be filtered.

    Notice we haven't even factored in SECURITY either? One or more would have been on overwatch, the noisy tasks like the chainsaw would have had to be pre-planned with a team sent out a distance, etc.


    A lot of people that frequent survival websites who seemingly only have 2 weeks of food, no experience living off the grid, little or no defensive training, who lives two miles from major cities teeming with hundreds of thousands of starving pilgrims when the time comes, love to say BS like "I'm not just going to survive, I'm going to THRIVE."

    And every time that comes up, people that have been living like this for years chuckle to themselves...

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    Work, that four-letter word. Fortunately, I have had to learn how to do a lot of two-man operations by myself, using levers, come alongs, ropes, etc. My neighbor bought a hot tub and had no idea how to get it from his utility trailer to his deck. You think he would have considered that before he purchased it. Using pvc pipes left over from an irrigation project, I used them as rollers under the tub, moving them to the front as they rolled out the back. 2x4s as levers tilted it up to the deck and then used to lift and slide it on the deck. 2 people, 150 ft up his gravel drive, 4ft up to the deck, 20 minutes time, using old technologies and no sore backs. I don't expect to move tubs in the PAW, but I might use old school ideas to move a log or a generator. BTW, I got a half-cord of wood for my trouble. As he is a former LEO, I can depend on him for help with security, hopefully.

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    Concerning the psychology of post-SHTF. I thought this over, and I took an inventory of close family members (not including cousins, etc.). 8 of them will perish without hand-outs as they are dependent on gubment and prescription drugs. A few are on psychotropics and will just curl up in a ball and perish when the meds stop and things get rough. The others are on insulin and/or heart meds. It may sound cruel, but fortunately, all of them live far enough away from me that I won't have to watch. All 8 live near a major population center. Another 4 are somewhat prepared, live away from population centers, and have "useful" spouses. One lives close enough to come here and be an asset. Rough, but honest assessment.

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