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    Shotgun Home defense rounds

    I'm resurrecting an old friend...a Mossberg 500 that's pushing 30 years old. I'm real familiar with 00 buck and slugs, but was wondering what most folks would use for home defense (inside the house). The considerations are pretty obvious...enough to be (potentially) lethal but not so powerful as to go through 3 walls and then outside possibly harming a neighbor.
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    With shotguns, the cup keeps whatever load you're shooting in a fairly tight pattern.
    If you want to emulate the old blunderblus, you can can load the shell with wadding and no cup. Aimed down the hallway, the shot will go everywhere, definitely NOT a tight pattern.
    BTW #4 buck doesn't penetrate walls like #00 does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prc-104 View Post
    With shotguns, the cup keeps whatever load you're shooting in a fairly tight pattern.
    If you want to emulate the old blunderblus, you can can load the shell with wadding and no cup. Aimed down the hallway, the shot will go everywhere, definitely NOT a tight pattern.
    BTW #4 buck doesn't penetrate walls like #00 does.
    Good advice but I don't reload shotgun shells. I do, however, reload my own rifle/pistol rounds. I'll take a look at #4 buck and see how it does.
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    For me OO buck is the only way to go for personal defense.
    The military and police use this because it is effective.

    Bird shot does not have the mass to penetrate deep enough to do much of anything.

    https://www.theboxotruth.com/
    This is a very interesting site, it started out testing some myths about bullet penetration and snowballed into a very informative wide ranging site.
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    Good website. After reading these articles, I think I'll stick with 00 buck for now (at least until I can see proof that another round is better since I already have a decent quantity of it).

    The Box O’ Truth #3 – The Shotgun Meets the Box O’ TruthThe Box O’ Truth #14 – Rifles, Shotguns, and Walls
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    Also remember to "pattern" your shotty at different distances. Lots of good you-boob videos on how to pattern it, and do this with each style shell you intend to use. very interesting results as you move out.

    if you plan on using different shot guns do this with all of them.

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    You should take a look at ballistic studies done with #1 buck.
    What a long, strange trip it's been.....

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    I like #4 buck. lots of leady things. Always aim at the groin.

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    OK...here are my thoughts....

    I already stock several calibers of pistol and a few of rifle. For the shotgun, I have slugs and 00 buckshot.

    For home defense, anything that's lethal WILL go through walls. The difference between 00 buck, #1 buck and #4 buck as far as wall penetration is minimal. The difference in lethality is that 00 buck passes the FBI penetration, as does the #1 and #4...but the #4 just barely passes. So, to keep it simple, I think the answer for me is to just stock the 00 buck.

    Now to pattern it. I have two barrels. An 18 1/4 cylinder choke (aka no choke) and a 26 inch modified choke.
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